It’s nearly impossible to think that when former president Bill
Clinton talked with CNN’s Dr. Sanjay Gupta about the moral difference
between using embryos for research that have even a remote possibility
of being fertilized….and other embryos….he was just ignorant of the
facts of human biology.
Like….an embryo only exists because of fertilization.
Clinton uses this language over and over, and Gupta does nothing to
correct the terminology or the discussion. In fact, he seems to agree.
And this, after he refers to Clinton as someone ‘who has studied this’,
thus giving him deference on the topic. Gupta asks if this
controversial issue will remain this divisive, and “be the abortion of
the next generation?” (Revealing that he, Dr. Gupta, is unaware or in
denial of the fact that harvesting stem cells from embryos de facto destroys that human being’s developing life…)
Here’s Clinton’s response (scroll way down in the transcript):
If it’s obvious that we’re not taking embryos that can —
that under any conceivable scenario would be used for a process that
would allow them to be fertilized and become little babies, and I think
if it’s obvious that we’re not talking about some science fiction
cloning of human beings, then I think the American people will support
Again, (this obviously requires repetition), embryos already are
fertilized, and are already little (the smallest) human babies (though
they don’t look like Gerber models yet). And by the way, Obama’s
actions last week open the door to human cloning not for reproductive
purposes, but for scientific research purposes. And we go over the
cliff from there to other cloning. But that’s another discussion…
Back to Clinton’s response, especially after Gupta asks if he has “any reservations?”
I don’t know that I have any reservations, but I was —
he has apparently decided to leave to the relevant professional
committees the definition of which frozen embryos are basically going
to be discarded, because they’re not going to be fertilized. I believe
the American people believe it’s a pro-life decision to use an embryo
that’s frozen and never going to be fertilized for embryonic stem cell
research, especially since now, not withstanding some promising
developments, most of the scientists in this field and the doctors will
tell you they don’t know of any other source as good as embryonic stem
cells for all the various things that need to be researched.
An absolutely stunning set of statements winding up in a complete untruth.
But there’s more…
But those committees need to be really careful to make
sure if they don’t want a big storm to be stirred up here, that any of
the embryos that are used clearly have been placed beyond the pale of
being fertilized before their use. There are a large number of embryos
that we know are never going to be fertilized, where the people who are
in control of them have made that clear. The research ought to be
confined to those.
Yes, he really said this. And no, Gupta didn’t do anything to clarify the biological and scientific facts.
But there are values involved that we all ought to feel
free to discuss in all scientific research. And that is the one thing
that I think these committees need to make it clear that they’re not
going to fool with any embryos where there’s any possibility, even if
it’s somewhat remote, that they could be fertilized and become human
This glaring mis-statement and delusional thought process has grave
consequences. Many women who go into abortion clinics out of
desperation or under pressure do not realize that the baby – the
unique, separate, individual human being she conceived – is already in
her womb. Perhaps it’s even the majority who think that. They think
(and often hear repeated by abortion clinic workers) that it’s a blob
of tissue at that stage, and abortion will prevent that child from
coming into existence. So they go ahead with it (which is why the
abortion movement so fiercely resists ‘informed consent’ laws) and
later suffer the horrible trauma of post-abortion syndrome when they
come to learn or understand (which they usually do) that abortion took
the life of their child.
And here are some of the highest members of government and media perpetuating the lies and myths and misinformation.
This needs attention. Far, wide and urgent. Thanks to alert citizens like you readers (like Chairm, who passed this
along), we have the exponential power and influence of the grassroots
and communications technology to get around the elite who are stuck in
Wonderland. And help them find their way out, at the same time.